this started with a conversation with a new friend at the top (54th F) of the banyan tree hotel in bangkok, in the resto/bar vertigo. the view was simply amazing, all 360 degrees of it! and it deserves the name. nakakalula at nakakahilo kung mahina ang sikmura mo.
as we indulge in a few over-priced drinks in the open-air atmosphere, the talk turned serious, about power of visualization, of positive mental images ('the secret' kind of talk). he was talking about this series of workshops he attended which turned his life around. most of that discussion was very familiar (positive thinking, visualization, owning your dreams and desires, etc).
what made this discussion different was when he confronted me with a question: what issues do you still carry with you? and when i talk about the guilt that comes from indulging in casual sex, my very catholic dilemma, he replied with a stinging remark: naku cc, sa ganyang edad mo ay may issue ka pa ba on that?
ouch.
then he went on to discuss how guilt is such a useless emotion. and how all this guilt is not making us more loving, more productive. this guilt stems from other people's norms which we impose upon ourselves.
i did not dare argue. it was a long day, the scene was just too beautiful. i just let him talk. he apologized for being preachy. but he just felt that i had much to offer if i wasn't saddled by this baggage.
guilt baggage. just throw it away. something 'up in the air' character would say during his lecture.
indulging in casual sex. enjoying sex for sex' sake. usually with multiple partners. working on a purely physical attraction level. no relationship. sometimes, no names. no conversation. an occasional grunt. 'oh fuck'. 'im coming.' (see cc & his faith, oscillations)
what's wrong with this? I quote my previous post:
that though the Bible is explicit about homosexual behavior as sinful, I believe that the sin lies in sex and sexual behavior devoid of 'love', purely for passion, or recreation. It is not so much the gender of those involved but the attitude behind the act. I should be treating people as people, as human beings. I fail to treat them right if I have sex with people I do not even love.
i have reasoned out that casual sex is wrong and sinful because i objectify a human being. i reduce him to a need-satisfaction tool. and that should be wrong. even if consensual. even if he is an adult who wants what transpires as much as i do.
or is it?
is it really so wrong to enjoy sex for its sake? if both (or more) parties are adults who agree to enjoy the activity, is it so objectionable? do i feel less of a person because i'm desired as a partner in the sexual? do i feel objectified and treated less than human?
questions that now rock my belief system. if i start to believe that it is not a serious offense, or not a sin at all, i will begin to feel less guilty about it and just enjoy. and ill have less baggage.
but its a row of dominoes. should i then stop confessing this to a priest? could i start to receive communion again? would i now be a better person, more integrated, more loving towards myself and hence, more accepting of other people? or will it not make a difference at all?
sigh. more than four decades of life. no clear answers. no clear questions.
9 comments:
just don't make things complicated. sometimes to overthink about something isn't good. lol, madali lang sabihin on my part kasi agnostic ako,hehe..
but i know how it feels.. :)
I wrote this long winded reply to your post but when I re-read it, parang wala siyang focus hahahhahahaha
So, I'll just say this instead.... Basta wala kang sinasaktan sa ginagawa mo, I don't think there's anything wrong.
Of course, this statement doesn't apply to everything. I'm just using it for this topic.
i guess i dont have your problem because i am not religious. But i must say that it is a slippery slope if you are not clear on your values and believes. Cause the justification method you have used can similarly be used on a lot of other circumstances.
Not that i dont agree with your reasoning. I think only 2 groups of people should ask and answer the question of what is right and wrong. Leaders and Philosophers. Leaders can be religious or political. They decide what is right and wrong in the social/society they lead and the rest follows.
Philosophers can analyze and debate on what is right or wrong but it will end up only guiding their own actions. But if the social/society group he belongs in do not follow the same rules then he will still be viewed as outlaw/outcast.
In summary ... right/wrong (where guilt originates) is dependent on your social circle. If you want to remain a catholic, follow their norms. Unless you find a catholic group that is ok with casual sex. Of course there are grey areas. Not every catholic might be totally against it and some might be ok with a little casual sex but not too much etc. But that is a longer discussion.
not wanting to sound preachy too but what i learned was..
sex should still be after marriage... and since there's no marriage for homosexuals.. then i guess that's it..
then i confessed my deeds to the priest... and advised that, "we can always find other creative ways to express our love. but if you really can't stop having sex, then at least be loyal."
haha... not that this is a go signal but i guess this is the lesser of two evils.. (though it's still a sin..)
ok.. i'm babbling already..
Catholicism is fueled by guilt.
i don't want to be preachy either. but if you believe in what the Holy Bible tells us, it's all stated there. so as adults or humans who are given "free will," let you be responsible to your actions. good or bad. and you know the consequences. love begets love. amor con amor se paga. hate begets hate. sin kills. what's your definition of sin? hala, cc, next topic, i-research ko muna.
but sin is not something, "just because you did not hurt anybody" is okay. what you don't know kills. if you believe in God, you are hurting Him everytime. He died on the cross for our sins.
Anyway, here's the verse:
Basa... 1 Cor 6:9-10
"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, partners, practising homosexuals, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, the verbally abusive, and swindlers will not inherit the kingdom of God."
Catholicism is not fueled by guilt. Guilt is a result of violating a greater law - the law of common good, for the greater good.
in the original greek of the bible, the word we now read as "homosexual" doesn't actually translate to that. rather, it translate to "sexual offenders". there was no equivalent english word for it at the time it was being translated, and they conveniently used "homosexual" instead. there. so, while it is not WRONG or SINFUL to be a homosexual - engaging in SEX outside of marriage is. kaya cc... magpakasal ka na! hehe!
an jaray ng mga posts! churva na itech! hahaha
homosexuals were also banned in Sodom and Gomorrah... madaming bading na nuon pa... lalo na yang mga Romans...
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